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Sunday, August 14, 2011

Flowers and Chuppah’s and Mechitza’s Oh My: You and Your Florist

Some decisions that you’ll have to make with your wedding florist can be scary.  For one, the financial responsibility for paying for the Florist in a Jewish Wedding is typically provided by the groom (see FLOP and groom’s financial responsibilities).  This means you’ll have to work with your hubby-to-be on setting the price point.  While my vision for wedding flowers and decorations including hiring a high-end highly rated Manhattan Florist, my fiances vision was to spend as little as possible.  He even looked into organizations that donate flowers for weddings.  I’m not saying there is anything wrong with working with donated flowers for a wedding, as it does cut considerable costs (if interested, look into The Enchanted Florist at Allegro School).  Nonetheless, we did find a middle-ground but it did take some work to be able to keep my vision and at a reasonable price.  The high-end highly rated Manhattan Florist was willing to negotiate down to $8,000 but my fiance was determined to find a reputable florist that would cost half that price.  His determination paid off, literally, and we ended up spending $3,500 for all of the bells and whistles that I dreamed of having at my wedding.  How did we make it happen?
  • Define your Vision:  Before approaching a florist, close your eyes and imagine how you envision your wedding venue decorated based on the “staples” that define the space of your venue, such as the entrance and rooms that will used during the wedding.  A traditional Jewish Wedding has several extra staples that should be considered including the tisch room, bedeken, chuppah / ceremony area, smorg room, yichud room, reception and dance space.  Prior to meeting with a florist, it’s a good idea to come prepared with an outline of how you envision the staples of your wedding space.  For me, I used this outline when going through my vision with the florist, and I brought pictures to show examples of the “look”:
o   Front Entrance Awning:  Decorate the entrance with some greenery, flowers, ice sculptures or lanterns.
o   Front Entrance Table with Name Cards:  Use a signature tree or flowers that drape.

o    Tisch Area:   The tisch area should be spacious enough to accommodate for the several honored family members and / or guests participating in signing and plate breaking.

o    Ceremony Aisle:   Simple decorations for the aisle express elegance while leaving the spotlight on you.

 
o   Chuppah:  The idea is to use branches, candles, and lighting...with little to no flowers.  This sets a romantic tone without hiking up costs.

 
o   Bride's Bouquet:  Smaller versions of the same arrangement can significantly cut costs while still providing the added beauty.

 
o   Bridesmaid Bouquet: Similar to the bride's bouquet, the bridesmaid bouquet does not need to be elaborate to make a statement.

 
o   Reception Tables:  Some venues may have on-hand vases or centerpieces they are willing to lend you at no additional cost.  Ask the venue to show you pictures of previous weddings that used their centerpieces to get inspired by ideas on how to transition them into your favorite look.

o   Boutonnieres:  These will typically be the less costly of flower-related purchases.  To further reduce costs, consider flowerless boutonnieres.
o   Bedeken:  The most beautiful “piece” to the bedeken is the bride and the draping of the dress on the chair.  That being said, elaborate decorations of flowers are not necessary to create an elaborate feel.
o   Mechitza:  Most secular florists may not be well-versed in Mechitza options.  Further, they may not even have a recommended rental place for this.  The easiest way to simplify things is to go with a florist that typically throws Orthodox Jewish Weddings.

o   Tip:  Bring pictures of the wedding venue to give the florist an idea of the colors that already exist at the venue and to ensure the flowers won’t clash.
  • Get Inspired:  If you’re the kind of person that has not always had a vision of how you want your wedding decorated, the least costly first step is to look at wedding magazines and start cutting out pictures you find most inspiring.  Eventually, you may find that you will start to gravitate to certain types of flowers or colors, and this will help build your vision.  Be sure to keep the pictures of the ideas you like most so you can easily refer to them when expressing what you like to your florist. 
  • Leverage the Free Stuff:  That’s right, I said “free”.  Yes, unbelievably some of the wedding vendors that you are using will lend you items that you do not have to spend a dime on.  For instance, the wedding venue I used was kind enough to provide us with candelabras that were used as the centerpieces for the tables at no additional cost. 
  • Embrace Minimalism:  Sometimes the best (and most cost efficient) way to decorate is to think like a minimalist.  Big is not always better when deciding on flowers.  Even Kate Middleton chose a smaller size bouquet than expected, and this only put more focus on her gorgeous gown.  The chuppah does not need a tremendous amount of flowers to get the “bling” effect (check out pictures of chuppah’s with little to no flowers).  Branches, candles, flower petals, and different shapes and sizes of glasses or vases can help reduce the number of flowers needed to enhance the atmosphere.
  • Get the “Best” Ideas:  Admittedly, the experience at the high-end florist took my vision to the next level, as they offered outrageously exquisite ideas and while we did not end up going with them, they showed the best of the best.  This exposure helped see what would be worth passing up versus what would be worth “fighting” for. 
  • Solidify your Vision with your Florist:  For each piece that you have gone through with your florist, make sure you are happy with the quality of what they will be providing by physically having them create the samples that will be used and going to their grounds to test it out and explore other options they offer.
  • Reputation is Key:  While I did my research to find the “best” florist on the internet and was driven by reviews from several wedding sites, my fiance did his research by hearsay which turned out to be not only the most affordable choice, but a great choice with spectacular results.  The florist he chose was from the depths of Brooklyn, a Haredi woman, and when I tried to find anything on the internet about her I found absolutely nothing.  I was nervous and even more so when we traveled to Brooklyn into a very religious neighborhood and found what seemed to be a ghetto work space where she provided samples.  After having already experienced the high-end Manhattan florist, I initially shunned the idea of using her.  But a second thought, and with the consideration of price, we walked through our requirements of what we wanted for the wedding and she said she could do it all. I believed in her mainly because my fiances contacts acclaimed the quality of her services and for the ease in speaking to her about ideas on decorating religious-related staples such as the bedeken, chuppah and mechitza.  This was second-nature to this religious Jewish woman whose business was booming not because she marketed herself but because she earned a well-deserved reputation within a community that extended beyond the boroughs.  Sometimes hearsay on reputation pays off, and more importantly, working with a florist that is an expert on throwing Orthodox Jewish Weddings makes life a bit easier when planning a wedding.   
Any questions?  Feel free to contact me.
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Thursday, April 29, 2010

Questions to Ask Wedding Venues about Your Orthodox Jewish Wedding

Not every bride is compelled to find the venue that offers the best deal for the price per person compared to other venues. I can’t relate to those brides. When I started doing research on wedding venues in the Metro- NY/NJ area, my goal was to find the best quality for the right price. Beyond using negotiation tactics to lower costs (to be covered in another blog), you should ask the wedding venue questions that highlight the pro’s and con’s in selecting the venue:


  • How many hours are they charging for? Typically, it is around 6 hours, but you can use this as a negotiation tactic by requesting an hour less.

  • Does the venue have more than one event going on at the same time? I found this to be a drag if I had to share my wedding space with other brides, and this was a deal-breaker for me.

  • Is Valet Parking an added cost? Some wedding venues fail to mention that someone has to pay for the valet service, and this can become an unforeseen expense to either the bride or the guests that may have to shovel out the money.

  • Does the wedding venue offer several different rooms that accommodate an Orthodox Jewish Wedding, such as a Tisch area, Bedeken area, Chuppah space, Yichud room, dancing floor that can separate men and women? Surprisingly, wedding venues may not bring up the fact that they do not have a private area / Yichud room for the bride and groom. In fact, two Manhattan wedding venues that I went to checkout could only offer a closet room for the newlywed bride and groom as a Yichud room.

  • Does the wedding venue use the same room for the Reception and the Ceremony? Some wedding venues that do not have a lot of space may state that they can accommodate a specific number of guests, like 175 people, yet this can only be done by flipping over the Ceremony area into the Reception area. During the “flip over”, guests may be huddled into a room to find a shmorgishborg. Personally, for the Jewish Orthodox bride such a set up may not make sense since the shmorg would be given right before Dinner. However, the benefit with wedding venues that flip over their space for the shared Reception and Ceremony area are more likely to significantly lower their price if the bride brings this up as a possible deal-breaker.

  • Is the wedding venue conveniently located or located near public transportation? If you find a wedding venue that you absolutely love but the only way for guests to get there is to swim or take a boat, then you may want to pass up on the wedding venue or use the inconvenient location as a negotiation strategy in lowering the cost per person.

  • What is the percent gratuity on top of the cost per person, and is there another additional percent charge for maitre de services? Right before I was going to sign the dotted line with a wedding venue, they mentioned an additional 5% charge for maitre de services on top of the 18% gratuity and the State tax. While I still ended up signing with this venue anyway, it was only after the wedding venue offered other perks for free to settle my nerves.

  • What services are offered by the wedding venue on the day of the wedding? One of the top reasons that I chose my wedding venue was because it came jam-packed with luxury services that included a Valet, Bathroom Attendant, Bridal Attendant, Maitre De / wedding coordinator, 2:1 waiter/table ratio, white-gloved attendants, and non-stop attendance to the needs of guests. They also offered place-setting cards, table numbers, menus per guest and even ice sculptures of any design we desired. I went through so many venues that were much more expensive yet did not offer most of these services.

  • What is the wedding venues cancellation policy? G-d forbid there is a need to cancel, but should one arise for some reason then it is better to know the financial damage ahead of time.

  • Does the wedding venue offer different ranges in time to hold the wedding, and are they flexible with changing times? One of the easiest ways to reduce costs per person is to have a morning / early day wedding, but there are also Orthodox Jewish-related issues with the timing of the wedding. Evening weddings are typically more expensive. Further, for brides planning to have their Orthodox Jewish Wedding in the winter, they should be conscientious of sunset times and make sure timing of the Tisch and Chuppah does not interfere with when the sun sets. My wedding was in February 2010 and our Rabbi officiating the wedding forced me to change the start time of the wedding from 4pm to 5pm to ensure the Hebrew date of our contractual marriage could not be disputed due to being too close to the time of the sun setting. Luckily, my wedding venue was flexible with changing the times.

  • What is the quality of the food and liquor offered by your wedding venue? Another top reason I chose my wedding venue was because they were known for having hands-down outstanding Glatt Kosher food, provide top shelf liquor and a kosher wedding cake with several designs to choose from. Guests are offered seconds on their meals. Most venues will not include all of these accommodations in their costs per person, which means spending more money to get such perks.
 
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