Showing posts with label Say Yes to the Dress. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Say Yes to the Dress. Show all posts

Monday, October 4, 2010

Say Yes to the Dress: Modest Wedding Gowns

Kleinfeld Bridal, a well-known premier bridal salon, has been offering up some of the most exquisite wedding gowns money can buy for more than six decades.  Their arguably addictive TV reality show Say Yes to the Dress reveals the sales process.  Kleinfeld even caters to those of us with a tighter budget, providing a vast selection of Sample Sale dresses at more affordable prices. However, for the Orthodox Jewish bride looking for an affordable modest wedding gown, there are several additional costs to keep in mind before flipping the non-refundable Kleinfeld bill. While I was blessed to find my dream Kleinfeld wedding gown, the sample sale price of $1,450 for the gown of my dreams turned into an additional $900 to build it up, along with the pains and frustrations when deciphering the “right” design decisions to make the build-up work well with the beauty of the original dress.


Don’t learn the hard way (like I did). Instead, protect yourself by knowing ahead of time what to expect with the Kleinfeld experience and additional costs:

  • Kleinfeld Sample Sale wedding gowns are typically Strapless: This means you will most likely need a plan on how to make a strapless dress more modest (i.e., build-up, jacket, shawl, etc.)
  • Speak to "Rochel Leah": Believe it or not, Kleinfeld actually has a sales associate that is known for consulting with Orthodox Jewish kallah’s looking for modest wedding gowns. While Kleinfeld salespeople are notorious for being pushy, Rochel Leah may actually talk you out of even scheduling a Sample Sale appointment at Kleinfeld’s if you tell her you have a tight budget. Why? She knows first-hand the mega dollars that can be associated with build-ups and botch-ups when making a wedding gown modest.
    • Kleinfeld Sample Sale dresses are typically strapless which means you will most likely have to pay several hundred more dollars for the additional cost for the build-up, jacket, or other covering (typically starting at $400 +)
    • Since Kleinfeld will not build-up your sample sale dress at their store, Rochel Leah can help identify which of the list of Kleinfeld’s recommended seamstresses are more / less expensive, but be weary of the quality and convenience before selecting a seamstress. Some NYC-based seamstresses are often pricier, while others make you hike your gown to other boroughs for the dress fittings and alterations.
    • Rochel Leah became a great resource for consulting tips on building up the dress. Her advice was honest and helpful.
  • Kleinfeld Sample Sale dresses are Non-Refundable: The purchase of your Kleinfeld sample sale dress is non-refundable and all sales are final, so before falling in love with a dress try to envision how the dress can be transformed to be more modest and determine such logistics as:
    • Will the material be hard to get?
    • Is the material going to be costly?
    • Do I have enough allotted time to make alterations?
    • What design looks best to flatter the original dress?
  • Warning: Kleinfeld is not responsible for the work done by the recommended seamstresses. Since Kleinfeld does not do build-ups on Sample Sale dresses, what happens outside of Kleinfeld stays outside of Kleinfeld, regardless of how severely botched-up the dress may become. Rather, they provide you with a list of recommended seamstresses.
    • After I purchased my Kleinfeld wedding gown, I had the misfortune of relying on the wrong seamstress to build-up my gown and I had to actually find another place for making alterations and the build-up. I ended up choosing Designer Loft, which saved the day for me and my perfect dress.
Questions?  Feel free to email me.

Wednesday, June 2, 2010

The Perfect Modest Wedding Gown

When it comes to finding the perfect wedding gown at a reasonable price, the old saying "you'll know it when you see it" may not always apply to the Orthodox Jewish bride. Finding a modest wedding dress that covers the shoulders, arms and chest in the secular bridal world is extremely limiting and almost non-existent if you’re looking for couture, inexpensive, good quality modest dress. Most Kallah's resort to one of five options, each having their Pro's and Con's:
  • Gemach / Borrow: Gemach’s can be a great option, as the price is significantly lower than the cost of buying a wedding gown. For instance, a quality wedding dress from a gemach can cost roughly $400 (when adding the cost of alterations and assuming that dry cleaning is not necessary).
    • Pro’s: This is, by far, the cheapest route with the exception of someone offering their dress to you at no charge. Costs to consider are alterations and/or dry cleaning the dress. So looking at the wear and tear, along with the expense to custom tailor and dry clean will help in selecting a gemach wedding dress.
    • Con’s: Not all gemach’s will offer the best or widest range of selections or quality, and most of what is offered cannot be viewed online first. Further, searching the gemach’s can be exhaustive.
    • Resources: For those of you that are interested in Gemach’s in the metro-NY area, click on this link: http://www.chossonandkallah.com/new-york/jewish-wedding/Gemachs.html
  • Rentals and / or Modest Bridal Stores that carries modest wedding gowns: Wedding gown stores in the heart of Brooklyn’s Orthodox Jewish communities will almost certainly offer a wide selection of modest wedding gowns and in-house alteration options. However, couture designer brands with fun and / or exotic looks are not as easy to spot in these stores. But sacrificing the designer name for an owner / designer of wedding gowns in Teaneck will offer up hotter styles that are within the realm of modesty.
    • Pro's: Most of these stores offer long-sleeve and collarbone covered dresses galore. Unlike having to build-up a dress that is not modest, you already know how the sleeves look. Since there is no need for a build-up, the costs would only be for the dress and alterations. Further, the store may provide in-house alteration services (so there is no need to drag the gown to a tailor), and the fittings are minimal compared to building up a dress.
    • Con's: Several modest bridal stores do not offer designer name gowns (outside of the Jewish world), the quality of material may be questionable, and the selection of styles may not include more exotic or fun looks.
    • Resources: For this option, I highly recommend considering Couture de Bride by Tova Marc: http://www.tovamarc.com/
      • Renting from Couture de Bride: Couture de Bride offers the option of renting a brand new wedding gown for $1,500. The price includes alterations, a petty coat and veil.
      • Custom-made Couture de Bride gown: You can choose from a selection of looks and have Tova Marc make the gown from scratch for $2,000. If you’re worried about the quality of the material, don’t be since she lets you decide on the fabric.
      • Clearance Couture de Bride gowns: The store offers sample sale dresses that are “once worn” and cost a mere $300. This does not include the cost for making alterations, and clearance gowns cannot be rented.
  • "Build-up" the dress from an otherwise non-modest wedding gown:
    • Pro's: You can feel free to shop at any secular bridal store and fall in love with almost any style, which includes designer wedding dresses at sample sale prices (the price for a couture secular dress plus the cost of a build up can be significantly lower than a couture modest dress without the build-up). NY Magazine has provided a Summer 2010 bridal gown directory of stores: http://nymag.com/weddings/listings/gowns/  
    • Con's: The time spent on going to several fittings, and the money spent for the build-up can be excruciating. If you do not hire a seamstress or designer with experience in making build-ups then you are taking a huge risk. Even if you do hire the right seamstress, you must still know some of the terminology used in designing the build-up. Further, the final product of having a build-up added to the wedding gown may not provide the ultimate desired look, and the material used may be uncomfortable.
    • Resources: For my wedding, I found the perfect Kleinfeld sample sale designer dress that needed a build-up, which deserves a separate blog (it is no wonder that Kleinfeld’s has a TV Show on buying a wedding gown with the kind of drama that can happen there). The biggest tip I can offer is to go to a highly recommended tailor that will provide solid guidance and experience to ensure the build-up looks natural, comfortable, and enhances the look of the original wedding gown. I recommend Designer Loft: http://www.designerloftnyc.com/  
      • They are a bit pricey, but the seamstresses are supervised by a designer that offers quality advice on ensuring a successful build-up.
  • Jackets, wraps, or other detachable covering:
    • Pro's: This can be easy and cheap option depending on the style and material, and allows the freedom to find designer sample sale dresses from any secular bridal store.
    • Con's: Having a separate piece as a covering can get in way of dancing or restrict movement. The look may be less put together or too matronly, and it may be hard to match the material / style of the dress or find the right tailor that is also affordable.
  • Custom-made Wedding Gown:
    • Pro's: If the designer is trusted, the price is right, the quality of the material is high, and the style/cut of the dress is known, then this is a great option.
    • Con's: Unknown reputation of the designer, the dress material quality, or if the price changes due to unforeseen costs are all risks. Several fittings may be needed, eating up time that can be spent making other wedding-related plans. Further, the final product of the dress may not look as good on as imagined or the “wow” factor that every bride wants when trying on wedding gowns.
    • Resources: As noted earlier, Couture de Bride by Tova Marc is worth considering.
 
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